Robert Verner/Varner might have been Samuel's eldest son or cousin, as I discussed above. There was at least one Robert in Irish records who was presumably born by 1645 and was probably too old to have been the Robert in America. That man was probably older than Samuel and might have been Samuel's uncle. A Robert who was presumably a younger man was in the Irish records until 1734 in regard to property in Ballygasey. I have found no records of a Robert in Ireland between 1734 and 1747. A Robert Verner/Vernor appeared in the records of Lancaster County, PA. According to Warrant Registers 1733-1957 on the Pennsylvania Land Records microfilm roll 33.4, on 23 Jul 1735 Robert Verner requested a survey of 300 acres of land in Lebanon Township on the west branch of Conestoga Creek. He requested 150 acres of land on 3 Mar 1736 (presumably 1736/7) and 200 acres on 1 May 1741. A Robert Verner helped to guarantee the bond for the administration of David's estate in 1743 and then disappeared from the records of Pennsylvania, implying that he died or moved elsewhere. Then, Robert Verner, son of Edward, died in County Armagh in 1747, owning land or leases in Ballygasey. Janice Palmer (now McLellan) listed the Robert in Pennsylvania as a possible son of David, because of the 1743 estate records, but the other evidence suggests that he might have been the son of Edward and thus a possible cousin of Samuel.
James Varner/Verner/Vernor of the 1724 tax record might have been a son of Samuel. However, there was at least one other man in the Irish records who was born by ca 1660 and who might have been the man in Pennsylvania. There were possibly two men named James in Ulster in the records of the 1660s. A James Vernor in County Armagh had a son Hugh, who was baptized in 1681, and a daughter Mary, who was baptized in 1684. A James Verner witnessed the 1683 County Armagh will of Henry Verner, and I believe that Henry was the father of the immigrant Samuel. A James Verner, probably the same man, also endorsed the 1684 County Armagh will of the John Varner who had sons named Edward and Robert. A James Vernor died intestate (without a will) in Lancaster County, PA by 1 Feb 1735/6, when a Mary Vernor was named executrix of his estate. Janice Palmer (now McLellan) wrote the date as 1736/7, but the estate inventory was not recorded until December 1736, so the executors must have been named in February 1735/6. Janice assumed that Mary was James's wife, but it is possible that she was the woman who was baptized in 1684 and that she was James's daughter. Other authors assumed that James had minor children, because an accounting had to be presented to the Orphans Court. However, the Orphans Court was responsible for administering the estates of anyone who died intestate, regardless of whether he/she had children. Thus, the identity of that James is still not certain, his relationship to Samuel is not proven, and it is not known if he had descendants.
Jacob Verner might have been a son of Samuel, as suggested by the crossed-out name Jacob in the 1725 grant application by David. A Jacob Verner requested a survey of 50 acres in Rapho Township on 4 Oct 1752. My notes say that a copy of the survey is in Book A35, page 49. Pennsylvania Land Records microfilm roll 33.4 has Warrant Registers 1733-1957. Volume P, No 1, page 512, has a record of 7 Apr 1783 that lists Jacob Verner as the patentee for 59.80 acres. It is not clear if Jacob was still alive in 1783. It is possible that the patent was re-recorded because of a loss of records or in conjuction with a sale of the land. It is also possible that it was delayed because of wars. It is not certain that the Jacob Verner of the 1725 record was the same man as the Jacob Verner of the later records. I found no other records of a Jacob Verner. David Verner was the only proven son of the immigrant Samuel and is the subject of Chapter Two. He died intestate in 1743. His widow Sarah was required to present an accounting to the Orphans Court, but that does not prove that she and David had minor children. Circumstantial evidence suggests that David and Sarah had a son named John, who was my forebear, and that they might have had a daughter named Martha.
A Samuel Vernor (sic) appeared on a Chester County, PA petition that was recorded on 6 Feb 1728/9, along with David Vernor (sic), implying that he was born by 1708. The petition was for a new county that became Lancaster County and is available on the Pennsylvania Archives website at http://www.docheritage.state.pa.us. My transcript of that petition is included as Appendix 2-A at the end of Chapter Two. The Pennsylvania Archives site says that the petition was recorded in February 1728/9 and that the Governor approved it in May 1729. The Governor then ordered that the new county be surveyed, and the survey was done in the fall of 1729. The Handybook For Genealogists, Ninth Edition says that Lancaster County was created in October 1728, which must be incorrect. The relationship of that Samuel to the other men is not known, but it seems likely that he was a younger namesake of the older immigrant Samuel and that he was either a son or nephew of the older Samuel. Janice Palmer (now McLellan) wrote that the younger Samuel was listed in a record of September 1728 as having gone "abroad". On 21 May 1735 a Lancaster County, PA petition was delivered to the Council, requesting a new road to Philadelphia. It included the names Samuel Verner, Robert Verner, and David Zerner (sic), so the younger Samuel must have returned to America. If he was the man who married in 1698, perhaps he returned for his family. Recall that a Samuel Verner married Mary Moore in 1698, and they had children named Charity, John, and Elizabeth. It is not clear if the Samuel who married in 1698 was the older immigrant remarrying or if it was a younger man who might have been a son or nephew of the older one. I discussed above that the John who was a son of the couple who married in 1698 might have been the man in Pennsylvania between 1734 and 1754. The man in Pennsylvania is discussed next. The younger Samuel disappeared from the records after 1735, and it is not known if he had descendants.
According to Janice Palmer (now McLellan), there were two men named John Verner/Vernor who were a father and son and who lived in Lancaster County, PA. They were different from my forebear John Verner, Sr., born ca 1725, so researchers must be careful to not confuse the three men. Even though there were older men named John in the Irish records, I refer to the older John of Lancaster records as the "elder" John, since he appears to have been the eldest John in those early Pennsylvania records, and I refer to his son as the "younger" John. Those terms help me to distinguish those men from my forebear John Verner, Sr., born ca 1725. The elder John and his son appeared in the records of Pennsylvania and other northern colonies, whereas my forebear John Verner, Sr. appeared in the records of Virginia and the Carolinas. The elder John might have been another son, a grandson, or a nephew of the immigrant Samuel. The elder John married Martha, whose maiden name is not known, and they lived in Leacock, PA. He acquired a land warrant in Lancaster County, PA in March 1733/4. He operated a tavern named "The Duke of Cumberland" from 1735-1741. He donated land for the Presbyterian Church at Leacock and acquired a large estate. According to Lancaster County Deeds, page 96, his will was written on 29 Jan 1754, and he died that year, leaving children Samuel, Benjamin, Elizabeth, James, John, Mary, and Hannah. The son Samuel deeded part of the inherited land to Robert Clinch in 1758 and then left on a voyage to Europe. He might have been the Samuel Vernor who on 15 Sep 1746 was "bound as apprentice to John Bruno, Philadelphia, as blockmaker, for 6 years to learn to write & cipher". By October 1763 the son Benjamin had reached age twenty-one and received part of the land back from Robert Clinch. Benjamin reportedly showed in tax records through 1782 and might have been the Benjamin Vernor in Lancaster County in the 1810 Federal Census. Further details of some of those children are in Varner, Verner, Werner Families of America. The son John remained in Pennsylvania and became a gunsmith. It is possible that he was the one who made the gun that is now a family heirloom owned by our distant cousin Phillips Bradford, that is believed to have been made in Pennsylvania, and that is believed to have been used by our forebear John Verner, Sr. (born ca 1725) and John Verner, Jr. in the Revolutionary War. If the relationships are as theorized, then the younger John who was a gunsmith would have been a first cousin of our John Verner, Sr. There were several men named John in the Irish records of those times, but most of them have been documented or were too old to have been the elder John in Pennsylvania. Recall that a Samuel Verner married Mary Moore in County Armagh in 1698 and subsequently had children named Charity, John, and Elizabeth. It is possible that their son John was the elder John in Pennsylvania, regardless of the identity of Mary's husband Samuel. Mary's uncle William Moore included a stipulation in a deed that referred to the life of John Verner, presumably his grand-nephew. That lease was re-written in 1758 (the "8" is uncertain) to remove that stipulation, implying that his grand-nephew had died. That in turn would coincide with the 1754 death of the elder John in Pennsylvania. I have no records of a John in County Armagh during those years that would indicate otherwise, and the names of the Pennsylvania elder John's children are certainly compatible with his having been a son, grandson, or nephew of the immigrant Samuel. However, it is also possible that the Samuel who married Mary Moore was a son or nephew of the immigrant Samuel and that the elder John was a grandson or grand-nephew of the older immigrant Samuel. Recall that a man named Henry Verner died in 1683 Ireland with sons Benjamin, Samuel, and David, whose descendants are not proven. I will discuss later why I think that the older immigrant Samuel was my immigrant forebear, but it is possible that the elder John was a son or grandson of that Benjamin or David of the 1683 will and thus was a nephew or grand-nephew of the immigrant Samuel.
Janice Palmer (now McLellan) listed a man named Aaron Varnor/Varnon as a possible son of the immigrant Samuel, but she did not specify the source of that information. Aaron Varnon was listed in the index of Warrant applications. She also listed a Mary Vernor/Verner as a possible daughter and wrote that Mary might have married a Thomas Jonson, but she did not specify the source of that information.
Thus, the immigrant Samuel Verner had a proven son named David and might have had other sons named Robert, James, Jacob, Samuel (Jr.), and John and daughters named Charity and Elizabeth. All of those younger men were probably immigrants who were born in Ireland. Samuel might also have had a son named Aaron and a daughter named Mary.